tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8840481684409907581.post2874147238561962131..comments2023-04-28T10:52:28.339-05:00Comments on Go Prairie: Why The Tea Party Concept is Stupidgoprairiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00532311590000341237noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8840481684409907581.post-73543112294612986522010-05-08T14:33:27.875-05:002010-05-08T14:33:27.875-05:00I am talking about the Tea Party and the goals tha...I am talking about the Tea Party and the goals that they have presented. I do not nor did I presume to have any idea as to YOUR beliefs but since you took offense at my 'attack' on them and since you defend them, I use the term YOU as though your are one of them. That is how people having adult discussions use pronouns. They stick to the topic, which in this case is the tea party and what their supposed goals are and what they propose as solutions and answers. Personal attack is seldom productive when attempting to discuss and issue.goprairiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532311590000341237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8840481684409907581.post-16625143421091238102010-05-08T07:45:39.159-05:002010-05-08T07:45:39.159-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Sonyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8840481684409907581.post-39654903465254918042010-05-07T11:36:08.466-05:002010-05-07T11:36:08.466-05:00S: You claim that your tea party is for the purpo...S: You claim that your tea party is for the purpose of keeping ME in government. Yet, if you read my post, you would know that WE are already IN government. WE still have the option of running for office at any level and WE still vote for who gets into office. We have two parties to represent a variety of usually opposing views and make the laws. We have two sets of elected official, one where the representation is based on population so each person gets a fair share of influence, and recognizing that large numbers of people massed into one place have different needs and wants that people settled more sparsely, we have another set where each state gets the same number to balance regardless of population. We have independent policing and regulating forces to interpret and act on those laws. We have a separate multi-level court system to react to and adjust the implementation of the laws, and we have feedback loops to ask the elected officials to revise the laws. It is about as 'of and for the people' as it can get. To represent each person MORE would mean more officials, and simultaneious with you complaining about not being represented, you complain also about governemnt being too BIG. Well, in light of the size and complexity of the nation and the people and the issues, the SYSTEM is about as damn perfect as it can get. A system with runoff elections might be more accurate or a system with points that you can distribute accross multiple candidates or rank order the candidates might be a tweak that makes the system more accurate. But it is the best system that man has invented so far, anywhere, anytime. YOU and your tea party have NOT proposed a better system or even tweaks to make this one better. You did not sit down and write a health care bill that would bring health to all yet still meet your criteria, did you? You have not made an alternate plan for Iraq have you? No concrete useful initiative on anything. No, you just get together and spread discontent and a fair measure of hate without making alternate suggestions to DO anything real or productive. <br />The system WORKS for us. ALL of us. It worked JEST DANGEDY FINE for you for the last 8 years when the system gave your guys power. Then you lost it due to the system and its processes. Fair and square by the same methods and processes that you gained it for 8 years. Okay, back farther, gained it for 4, lost it for 4, gained it for 8, and now probably lost it for 8. But instead of griping about how government is too big and you are not represented and disowning the whole SYSTEM in a loud but ineffective way, how about looking at why you lost and working on that for 2016? Here's why you lost: Your party let religion gets its hooks in you. Not every conservative wants what the 'Religious Right' wants. Many things the RR pushes for such as religious influence in government are counter to the traditional constitutional values of your party. Just like we let the 'green' movement bleed off some of our power because we got distracted by it, so you have let the fundamentalist religious movement bleed off your power. We convinced enough people that the green parties were not going to be big enough to matter and that there were other issues that government needed to stick to and that environment could be addressed within the system and we got enough people back to actually win this time. That is what you need to do, instead of going to rallies on large lawns. Take the party back for its traditional values and get back onto the playing field. And quit wasting time fighting against the system that served you perfectly well as long as you were winning. It all looks like spoiled grapes from here. Move on to tending the next crop and forget the one you lost. The tea party only keeps you from getting anything done. If you want things to shift back your way, YOU should agree with me that the tea party is not playing within the 'perfect system' and is delaying any true correction of the course.goprairiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532311590000341237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8840481684409907581.post-29193504110891542702010-05-02T16:52:20.564-05:002010-05-02T16:52:20.564-05:00You have an interesting point of view.You have an interesting point of view.verslavinghttp://www.refindyourway.comnoreply@blogger.com